I have acess to all kinds of equipment so unless I need something firearm specific I should have everything I'll need. Amberg GEW 88 Commision Mauser rifle. From 1905 the rifles were also converted to use the Gewehr 98 type stripper clip by adding stripper clip guides to the top rear of the receiver and altering the magazine becoming Gewehr 88/05 rifles. TH 88MauSporter 154 31 Sergeant Feb 06, 2016 #3 Certainly enjoy the 1888 sporters like yours. Many came home In 1945 as war trophies. [12] Ethiopean rifles (some ex-UVF rifles also found their way there) also saw action during the East African Campaign. If I use the original barrel I can just cut off the first inch of the barrel jacket, screw it on and solder it or something to provide a solid base. @keyframes ibDwUVR1CAykturOgqOS5{0%{transform:rotate(0deg)}to{transform:rotate(1turn)}}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq{--sizePx:0;font-size:4px;position:relative;text-indent:-9999em;border-radius:50%;border:4px solid var(--newCommunityTheme-bodyTextAlpha20);border-left-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);transform:translateZ(0);animation:ibDwUVR1CAykturOgqOS5 1.1s linear infinite}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq,._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq:after{width:var(--sizePx);height:var(--sizePx)}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq:after{border-radius:50%}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq._2qr28EeyPvBWAsPKl-KuWN{margin:0 auto} I have a few in different configuration. 50 caliber BMG I might think about taking a shot! Examples of these usually show first-class workmanship and special features such as folding sights and altered bolt handles. Modern European 7.92X57 S-bore ammo is kick-butt stuff, as was the German Army military ammunition. Some of them were modified to use the stripper clips used with the Gewehr 98 by milling a slot into the left side of the action and adding stripper clip guides on the top of the receiver. This piece could be removed during disassembly, and was frequently lost. A lot of the older Gewehr/Karabiner 88 sporters were purpose built by CG Haenel. "I think that crap about bigger bullets not deflectig as much is hooey! This doesn't mean that I think you shouldn't - maybe you should! During the following 50 years, the rifle and its Hanyang 88 copy were used in the Xinhai Revolution, the Chinese Civil War and the War of Resistance against Japan and proved more than adequate against the Japanese Arisaka Type 38 rifle, though the latter was newer by 30 years. It is loaded to very low pressures and in my Husky 96 it is very accurate. Modern hunters make statements like I always blast away at 1,000 yards as it eliminates that sneaking up bit some people call hunting Spoken like a true slob modern hunter. These factors can be very serious with these early model German arms when used with modern ammunition, even where the bore has worn down. The M1888 Gew commission rifle is a Manlicher design and was never produced by Mauser. Out of curiousity, what Rockwell would you specify? ._3K2ydhts9_ES4s9UpcXqBi{display:block;padding:0 16px;width:100%} i don't see how, unless you have rifling cutting bits that will reach the entire length of the barrel. Unfortunately he stole the Mannlicher patented en bloc clip so the cunning baron blackmailed the arsenal asking for the manufacturing and marketing license of the M1888 without royalties to grant the use of the magazine and clip. Any links to barrels I could consider for this project? Category : D. Caliber : 8x57J . Trying to get barrel measurements for an older Ruger. (SOME German hunting rifles today are made with the old J- bore dimensions, but that doesnt concern us in the States). There shouldnt be a problem, all the German conversions SHOULD have a prominent S stamped on the receiver. Just got my RTI luger in, paid $2000, did I get a good RTI is due to start selling Luger Pistols soon. Now yer makin sense!!! /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/IdCard.ea0ac1df4e6491a16d39_.css.map*/._2JU2WQDzn5pAlpxqChbxr7{height:16px;margin-right:8px;width:16px}._3E45je-29yDjfFqFcLCXyH{margin-top:16px}._13YtS_rCnVZG1ns2xaCalg{font-family:Noto Sans,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:400;line-height:18px;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex}._1m5fPZN4q3vKVg9SgU43u2{margin-top:12px}._17A-IdW3j1_fI_pN-8tMV-{display:inline-block;margin-bottom:8px;margin-right:5px}._5MIPBF8A9vXwwXFumpGqY{border-radius:20px;font-size:12px;font-weight:500;letter-spacing:0;line-height:16px;padding:3px 10px;text-transform:none}._5MIPBF8A9vXwwXFumpGqY:focus{outline:unset} The invention of smokeless powder in the late 19th century immediately rendered all of the large-bore black powder rifles then in use obsolete. Found this a minute ago, pretty sure it's a sporterized Gewehr '88 rifle. All are great shooting rifles with the properly configured ammo. These rifles should never be used for any other commercialy available cartridge. Payment Condition many more doors open up with a turk. In conclusion old time real hunters understood wild game habits and used to actually stalk up to ranges as close as 25 yards. I do prefer the 757 any day over both of them. Not really sure which Rockwell and method I'd specify. That said use trustworthy data and follow all directions carefully and reload in safe conditions! Many came home In 1945 as war trophies. As shots are fired the clip remains in place until the last round is chambered, at which point it drops through a hole in the bottom of the rifle. For the modern rifle lover though, Haenels in their many guises offer an opportunity to own a rifle of stellar quality for not much money. No idea, but that is a really nice rifle! Conversion of ex military rifle to half stocked sporting gun by Hollis & Sons. My question is how to treat the theads for the barrel shroud. In the U.S. Mauser it is generally called 8mm. german GEW88 gew 88 commission rifle 88/05 8mm mauser barrel very good bore Pre-Owned $109.95 Seller: tagmil (19,931) 99.9% Buy It Now Free shipping 24 watchers Sponsored GEW 88 gew 88/05 commission rifle parts lot trigger guard & trigger 8mm mauser Pre-Owned $99.00 Seller: jkaler47 (10,740) 97.9% or Best Offer +$10.00 shipping Sponsored The German sporting rifle cartridge for the 1888 is known as the 857 rimless. The actual caliber is commonly about 7.9 mm, that being the usual German War Office designation for the old M. A LW barrel easily that. Kyle, This one is a handy carbine without the improved magazine, and like the original 1888 Mauser rifle requiring en bloc clips, but in 7x57 Mauser. This brings us back to the two major reasons there is only minor collector interest in these rifles. Then with a drill of the proper diameter for the finished lands. Lots of them made to sporter standard by many of the best German smiths. +$43.00 shipping. Most all the 88 J-bore Commission rifles were converted to S-bore size and have worked well enuff during and since ww1. Those suitable for the then standard .323" bullet S cartridge were stamped with a Z-prefix registration number, while those deemed suitable only for the limited standard old .318" bullet Patrone 88 cartridge got a D-prefix number. The bolt assembly required 174 operations. In 1905, the 8mm M/88 cartridge was replaced by the 7.9257mm Mauser S Patrone (ball cartridge) which was loaded with a new 8.20mm (.323 in) 9.9 g (154 gr) spitzer bullet and more powerful double-base smokeless powder, resulting in nearly 40% higher muzzle velocity and 30% more muzzle energy. Haenel, the primary private contractor, developed a line of improved models ranging from nicely made to gorgeous - but never chambered in the higher intensity modern loads. There are lots of Mauser 98s out there at minimal cost. Many Gewehr 88 rifles stayed in active service in second-line units, reserves, and in armies allied with the Germans through and well past World War I. The compression of the bolt lugs, their seats and the removable bolt head, require headspace attention they seldom get. do yourself a favor and buy a Turk mauser (k.Kale if you can) for about a hundred bucks and shoot it. I have a Schilling made rifle also in9x57. All these plants were under the financial control of Loewe. Otherwise lawsuit. Later models provided for loading with stripper clips (Gewehr 88/05s and Gewehr 88/14s) and went on to serve in World War I to a limited degree. Vintage Sniper Rifles . Because I am a rare hunter, I respect the wild game I hunt and under field conditions too much can go wrong even if the hunter is a skilled shot. I really like the idea of the 9.3x57. I have one of these nice rifle. Haenels civilian rifles on the Commission action followed the German hunting rifle style that existed since the advent of centerfire cartridges. 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THE LIST IS BY NO MEANS COMPLETE, WE HAVE OVER 1500 STOCKS. Thread starter Son of Dorn; Start date Dec 6, 2019; Forums. HAENEL. Hey everyone! 14th December 2020 gewehr 88 sporter. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I use Sellier & Bellot 196gr SPCE for hunting with my old Mausers and mil-surp for plinking and banging around practice. I think that crap about bigger bullets not deflectig as much is hooey! Guns Listing ID: 704599Manufacturer: Mauser Importer: Mauser Model: Argentino 1891 Type: Rifle Action Type: Bolt Action Caliber / Gauge: 7.65 x 53 MM Finish: Blued Barrel Type: Single Grip Type: Wood .Click for more info Seller: Guns Dot Com Area Code: 866 $499.99 NEW THIS WEEK! [13], China also used this rifle extensively during the Qing dynasty and the Republican era. all it need have is a pilot the diameter of the 8mm lands. Some 88's were sold to various nations or armed groups, or captured in combat and therefore a wide variety of markings can be found such as Bulgarian stars, English proofs, Turkish crescents and symbols, Polish eagles etc. + $10.00 shipping . You will find early Mannlichers from Steyr as well as German and Austrian custom makers, and you will find custom-ordered takedown rifles and modified Gewehr 88s. If I messed up the original Gew barrel I can just pay $20 and get another entire rifle. When I miss, I don't blame the brush for getting in the way. Any idea on where I could get a 9.3 barrel? A dainty German guild carbine built on a Gew88 action, not highly ornate, but rather plain; probably sold as a forester's or gamek for sale by Dr Thomas Caceci on GunsAmerica - 957049224 .ehsOqYO6dxn_Pf9Dzwu37{margin-top:0;overflow:visible}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu{height:24px}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu{border-radius:2px}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu:focus,._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu:hover{background-color:var(--newRedditTheme-navIconFaded10);outline:none}._38GxRFSqSC-Z2VLi5Xzkjy{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._2DO72U0b_6CUw3msKGrnnT{border-top:none;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText);cursor:pointer;padding:8px 16px 8px 8px;text-transform:none}._2DO72U0b_6CUw3msKGrnnT:hover{background-color:#0079d3;border:none;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-body)} The Karabiner 88 utilized a different bolt handle, which resembled those found on commercial sporting rifles. 1888 Sporter C.G. Steyr was not the only company to appreciate the virtues of the Commission rifle. Get 12 Issues a year of the country's best firearms writing. Kyle you're fooling with a weapon contrived in black powder era and obselete by WW 1. There were also two carbine versions, the Karabiner 88 for mounted troops and the Gewehr 91 for artillery. Why not just ream-out the original barrel to 8 mm Rem Mag? I blame the deer for getting behind the brush. There were numerous blow ups with these rifles, serious injuries and deaths were recorded. It has a custom sporter stock to the muzzle with a monte carlo cheek piece that needs a final sanding and finish. Under no circumstances should this military pointed bullet ammunition ever be used in the model 1888 rifle or in sporters made from the 1888 action. My 8X57's are about all I really want ballistically and recoil wise, as well as being Economical!! 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